Quote: Randa france wrote in post #30

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Our form didn't have the red explanation underneath some of the boxes.

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You can upload your car registration document there too. - isn't that what the browse button is for or am I being dim?

Typically French LOL

I have absolutely no idea of how the Crit' Air will actually be implemented in practice but from what I have read so far about the scheme it appears to have had a bit more thought put into it when compared to the German Umwelt equivalent.

Leaving aside issues such as the requirement to personally add details into the application form (French) and the fact that the German disc costs considerably more and that maybe - just maybe - there may be a bit of self interest involved in both schemes e.g. adding to the Finance Ministry pocket, what I find positive is that the management and implementation of the Crit' Air scheme is being handled locally, by local authorities, and that there is room for discretion to be exercised dependent upon pollution levels on any particular day.

In effect this means that any given authority has the legislative power to determine that pollution levels are say slightly above the norm and that a prohibition on Class 3, 4 and 5 badge holders would be appropriate whilst on another day it might mean all but 'Green' badge holders.
In Germany we are now several years into the implementation of the Umwelt Zones and most, if not all, of these are now 'Green' only badge holders. I have no way of knowing the exact figures but it would be my guess that a considerable number of modern day cars are sporting a green sticker as it is which really negates the purpose of having road signs to this effect displayed, and also for the odd Hillbilly that might ride down from the hills one day spurting out black stuff from the exhaust all over the place isn't really going to make that much of a difference anyway when all is said and done. On the face of it, it would appear that the requirement for owners of new vehicles meeting Euro 5/6 emissions to purchase and display a green sticker serves only the purpose of lining the Treasury coffers. Additionally, these Umwelt Zones are 24/7 with actual pollution levels on any day or period of time not being taken into account. In that respect it seems to be one up to the French.

Only 16 more nail biting days to go then, Roger. If it makes you feel any better, we haven't received ours yet either.

I have been looking at this issue for our summer trip and have got totally confused! I thought the EU was all about harmonisation! As far as I can tell I just need to get the German one for this year. I take it they can be bought locally in the country? obviously before entering a zone.

German Umwelt stickers can be purchased online at a cost of €15 or locally at any TUV centre at a cost of €5. You will need full registration documents. http://www.tuev-sued.de/auto_fahrzeuge/f...ausland/england

Ordering of the sticker online is via clicking on the 'Ordering of Emissions Sticker' at the bottom of the page which then brings up this page https://www.tuev-sued.de/auto_fahrzeuge/...stellen/england which is the form that you need to complete for an online application.

For picking up a sticker personally:- on the main page (first link above) you'll find a link to locating their service centres but here's a short cut to it. http://www.tuev-sued.de/hauptuntersuchun...online-anmelden

In the box marked 'Bitte PLZ oder Ort eingeben' meaning enter Post Code or Town/City just enter somewhere that you intend passing through or somewhere that is close to your chosen route that you can divert off to and it should throw up an address etc. That is of course if you want to collect a sticker in person.

Any question/problems just get back and I'll see whether I can help.

Oh, and with regard to 'harmonisation'. I think you'll find that it's the UK that does very little of that. For example, and to put it in relevance to this forum, in Europe caravans are taxed and MOT'd as vehicles in their own right. Not so in the UK.

My car only makes a little bit of smoke, I am sure it would be ok dragging my Familia through Paris....

Steam-powered-car_teaser1.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

I'm bumping this for the benefit of Blueyonder who perhaps has forgotten that she recently posted a question to which both myself and Roger have provided the requested information.

Thankyou kindly 😊much appreciated.

Well, it has arrived, a little yellow sticker to obstruct my windscreen that says I am super clean and can drive anywhere in France I want to and all for 4euros18 centimes.
Still confused, I don't get out much, but at that price thought I would get one

All you need now is a Blue Peter badge and it'll be all systems go.